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> <channel><title>Comments on: More Efficient Emails</title> <atom:link href="http://www.productivity501.com/more-efficient-emails/2792/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.productivity501.com/more-efficient-emails/2792/</link> <description>Pieces of the productivity puzzle.</description> <lastBuildDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2012 01:55:26 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1</generator> <item><title>By: Esther</title><link>http://www.productivity501.com/more-efficient-emails/2792/comment-page-1/#comment-229689</link> <dc:creator>Esther</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 28 Jul 2011 18:27:37 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.productivity501.com/?p=2792#comment-229689</guid> <description>■Keep messages short – Long messages tend to get ignored.  Try to keep your message short.  If it needs to be longer, be sure the first paragraph gives a good summary.  I’ve found that writing a one or two paragraph message, my signature, and then the bulk of supporting data (after my signature) helps increase the chance that they will read the first part of my message.
This is excellent advice.  I find that recipients of emails (myself included) do not read more than 2 to 3 (short) sentences.  I have been making myself go back over emails I receive just to make sure I have read everything.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>■Keep messages short – Long messages tend to get ignored.  Try to keep your message short.  If it needs to be longer, be sure the first paragraph gives a good summary.  I’ve found that writing a one or two paragraph message, my signature, and then the bulk of supporting data (after my signature) helps increase the chance that they will read the first part of my message.</p><p>This is excellent advice.  I find that recipients of emails (myself included) do not read more than 2 to 3 (short) sentences.  I have been making myself go back over emails I receive just to make sure I have read everything.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Chris Kirkham</title><link>http://www.productivity501.com/more-efficient-emails/2792/comment-page-1/#comment-219808</link> <dc:creator>Chris Kirkham</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 07 Jul 2011 05:42:38 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.productivity501.com/?p=2792#comment-219808</guid> <description>It&#039;s a shame that this post is wasted on people who likely don&#039;t write terrible emails. I feel like you should start an email training circuit and hit the road talking to people and businesses. Just make sure to tell them not to hit Reply All as well.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s a shame that this post is wasted on people who likely don&#8217;t write terrible emails. I feel like you should start an email training circuit and hit the road talking to people and businesses. Just make sure to tell them not to hit Reply All as well.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Al Pittampalli</title><link>http://www.productivity501.com/more-efficient-emails/2792/comment-page-1/#comment-219460</link> <dc:creator>Al Pittampalli</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 06 Jul 2011 02:48:44 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.productivity501.com/?p=2792#comment-219460</guid> <description>That email exchange is priceless, Mark. If we can just step inside the reader&#039;s shoes for just one second, and think about how they&#039;ll receive the message, that will fix 90% of the problem. Great post.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That email exchange is priceless, Mark. If we can just step inside the reader&#8217;s shoes for just one second, and think about how they&#8217;ll receive the message, that will fix 90% of the problem. Great post.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Mark Shead</title><link>http://www.productivity501.com/more-efficient-emails/2792/comment-page-1/#comment-215640</link> <dc:creator>Mark Shead</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 23 Jun 2011 03:18:52 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.productivity501.com/?p=2792#comment-215640</guid> <description>Seems it is really easy to get so focused on hitting &quot;send&quot; that we forget the goal is the message.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seems it is really easy to get so focused on hitting &#8220;send&#8221; that we forget the goal is the message.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: marc</title><link>http://www.productivity501.com/more-efficient-emails/2792/comment-page-1/#comment-215518</link> <dc:creator>marc</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 22 Jun 2011 17:46:29 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.productivity501.com/?p=2792#comment-215518</guid> <description>I get your point, and I often enumerate how many things I am listing/requesting/etc. and then bullet them out individually and even state/request that responses be added as a fill-in (for lack of a better term) with a different font color or indentation or symbol, e.g. #, *, bullets.
On the other hand though how about just using basic reading and comprehension skills? It is frustrating how horrible our society is at, like you said, skimming everything beyond the first line, then responding with some totally unrelated, horrific response that required additional messages to clarify or correct. 95% of the time, all of the necessary information is contained in my emails, if people only bothered to read them; and I am not some novelist of an email writer. Yet, I would say, 40% of people ask unnecessary questions or go off on unrelated paths because they did not read what was sent to them.
People should remember, causing nonsensical/unnecessary conversations not only makes you look horribly stupid and lazy, but it also leads to why you &quot;don&#039;t have the time&quot; to compose a proper message. I guess it&#039;s a chicken-and-egg problem, but quintessentially; lazy, stupid emails or responses are nothing more than saying &quot;Thanks for your email, but I am too lazy and stupid to read what you wrote so I will just substituted some wharrgarbl to make your head explode. I bet you can&#039;t make me comprehend; betcha&#039; can&#039;t&quot; That&#039;s a free Dilbert comic strip for ya ... guy who writes Dilberts comic strips.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I get your point, and I often enumerate how many things I am listing/requesting/etc. and then bullet them out individually and even state/request that responses be added as a fill-in (for lack of a better term) with a different font color or indentation or symbol, e.g. #, *, bullets.</p><p>On the other hand though how about just using basic reading and comprehension skills? It is frustrating how horrible our society is at, like you said, skimming everything beyond the first line, then responding with some totally unrelated, horrific response that required additional messages to clarify or correct. 95% of the time, all of the necessary information is contained in my emails, if people only bothered to read them; and I am not some novelist of an email writer. Yet, I would say, 40% of people ask unnecessary questions or go off on unrelated paths because they did not read what was sent to them.</p><p>People should remember, causing nonsensical/unnecessary conversations not only makes you look horribly stupid and lazy, but it also leads to why you &#8220;don&#8217;t have the time&#8221; to compose a proper message. I guess it&#8217;s a chicken-and-egg problem, but quintessentially; lazy, stupid emails or responses are nothing more than saying &#8220;Thanks for your email, but I am too lazy and stupid to read what you wrote so I will just substituted some wharrgarbl to make your head explode. I bet you can&#8217;t make me comprehend; betcha&#8217; can&#8217;t&#8221; That&#8217;s a free Dilbert comic strip for ya &#8230; guy who writes Dilberts comic strips.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: marc</title><link>http://www.productivity501.com/more-efficient-emails/2792/comment-page-1/#comment-215516</link> <dc:creator>marc</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 22 Jun 2011 17:31:48 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.productivity501.com/?p=2792#comment-215516</guid> <description>Because that is fraught with all kinds of other problems; probably even more than email. Quintessentially it comes down to the competence of the person you are communicating with. Unfortunately, most people think they are competent, without the skill to even determine whether they are, in fact, so.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Because that is fraught with all kinds of other problems; probably even more than email. Quintessentially it comes down to the competence of the person you are communicating with. Unfortunately, most people think they are competent, without the skill to even determine whether they are, in fact, so.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Gerard</title><link>http://www.productivity501.com/more-efficient-emails/2792/comment-page-1/#comment-215467</link> <dc:creator>Gerard</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 22 Jun 2011 13:08:37 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.productivity501.com/?p=2792#comment-215467</guid> <description>It&#039;s not just help desk employees that deal with this frustration.
This is the transcripts of an actual email conversation I have had with the HR department in a cable company I worked for. I received this email about three weeks after starting to work for the company, so I was new to the company and the company had just moved into a new building, so I was still very green.
HR: I could not enter you into the system because you have not filled out all the forms.
Me: What forms have I not filled out yet?
HR: So and so tax form.
Me: I never received that form from you guys.
(I decided to play along)
HR: Well, here it is.
Me: I have filled it out, now what?
HR: You can bring it to me.
Me: Where are you located?
(Her email did not say where she was located or gave a phone number to call)
HR: On the 1st floor.
(We had five different wings in the building)
Me: Where on the first floor?
HR: In wing C.
Me: Where in wing C?
(As in give me the number of the room that you are in)
After not getting a response for 30 minutes, I again emailed her.
Me: Helloooo, what room are you in?
If you counted the number of emails, there were 13 exchanged. That is right, 13. While it could have been solved with just one email. One email in which she could and should have said that I not filled out form so and so, attach the form to the email, tell me where to hand it in, and include a phone number so I could call her.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not just help <a
href="http://www.productivity501.com/5-questions-to-help-organize-your-desk/7045/" class="kblinker" title="More about desk &raquo;">desk</a> employees that deal with this frustration.<br
/> This is the transcripts of an actual email conversation I have had with the HR department in a cable company I worked for. I received this email about three weeks after starting to work for the company, so I was new to the company and the company had just moved into a new building, so I was still very green.</p><p>HR: I could not enter you into the system because you have not filled out all the forms.<br
/> Me: What forms have I not filled out yet?<br
/> HR: So and so tax form.<br
/> Me: I never received that form from you guys.<br
/> (I decided to play along)<br
/> HR: Well, here it is.<br
/> Me: I have filled it out, now what?<br
/> HR: You can bring it to me.<br
/> Me: Where are you located?<br
/> (Her email did not say where she was located or gave a phone number to call)<br
/> HR: On the 1st floor.<br
/> (We had five different wings in the building)<br
/> Me: Where on the first floor?<br
/> HR: In wing C.<br
/> Me: Where in wing C?<br
/> (As in give me the number of the room that you are in)<br
/> After not getting a response for 30 minutes, I again emailed her.<br
/> Me: Helloooo, what room are you in?</p><p>If you counted the number of emails, there were 13 exchanged. That is right, 13. While it could have been solved with just one email. One email in which she could and should have said that I not filled out form so and so, attach the form to the email, tell me where to hand it in, and include a phone number so I could call her.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Mark Shead</title><link>http://www.productivity501.com/more-efficient-emails/2792/comment-page-1/#comment-125197</link> <dc:creator>Mark Shead</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 22:56:41 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.productivity501.com/?p=2792#comment-125197</guid> <description>@Steve - When talking to &quot;Sue&quot; in person she listened to the question being asked and answered.  She clearly wasn&#039;t reading the questions sent on email. From the tech support standpoint I think it is good to try to focus on meeting the end user&#039;s needs--even if they aren&#039;t technically savvy.
However from a holistic business standpoint, people who can&#039;t communicate via email throw a wrench in your business processes. &quot;Sue&#039;s&quot; responses on email are about as useful as someone who refused to answer emails in anything other than Klingon. This isn&#039;t a technology issue--it is a communication issue.
If they someone can&#039;t learn to communicate through reading and writing, most jobs that use a computer are probably a poor fit.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Steve &#8211; When talking to &#8220;Sue&#8221; in person she listened to the question being asked and answered.  She clearly wasn&#8217;t reading the questions sent on email. From the tech support standpoint I think it is good to try to focus on <a
href="http://www.productivity501.com/9-tips-for-efficient-meetings/6620/" class="kblinker" title="More about meeting &raquo;">meeting</a> the end user&#8217;s needs&#8211;even if they aren&#8217;t technically savvy.</p><p>However from a holistic business standpoint, people who can&#8217;t communicate via email throw a wrench in your business processes. &#8220;Sue&#8217;s&#8221; responses on email are about as useful as someone who refused to answer emails in anything other than Klingon. This isn&#8217;t a technology issue&#8211;it is a communication issue.</p><p>If they someone can&#8217;t learn to communicate through reading and writing, most jobs that use a computer are probably a <a
href="http://www.productivity501.com/10-signs-you-will-be-poor/472/" class="kblinker" title="More about poor &raquo;">poor</a> fit.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Steve</title><link>http://www.productivity501.com/more-efficient-emails/2792/comment-page-1/#comment-125169</link> <dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 18:29:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.productivity501.com/?p=2792#comment-125169</guid> <description>@Mark Shead - I agree with @Marie in that the tech support community is not in touch with the their user&#039;s outlook and concerns, or lack of technical understanding.
@ Mark - You mentioned that the tech did go to Sue&#039;s desk to solve the problem.  What information did Sue provide in person that she did not provide via email, or was this a case where &quot;hands-on&quot; by the tech enabled resolution?
Like @Marie, I spend the last 25 years of my career supporting the end users.  Many of the issues discussed here are the same issues I encountered in the 70&#039;s and 80&#039;s.  For all the advancement in technology, the user community has not changed all that much, and I feel that it is the support community&#039;s responsibility to meet the user&#039;s needs rather than expect the user to improve their tech savvy.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Mark Shead &#8211; I agree with @Marie in that the tech support community is not in touch with the their user&#8217;s outlook and concerns, or lack of technical understanding.</p><p>@ Mark &#8211; You mentioned that the tech did go to Sue&#8217;s <a
href="http://www.productivity501.com/5-questions-to-help-organize-your-desk/7045/" class="kblinker" title="More about desk &raquo;">desk</a> to solve the problem.  What information did Sue provide in person that she did not provide via email, or was this a case where &#8220;hands-on&#8221; by the tech enabled resolution?</p><p>Like @Marie, I spend the last 25 years of my career supporting the end users.  Many of the issues discussed here are the same issues I encountered in the 70&#8242;s and 80&#8242;s.  For all the advancement in technology, the user community has not changed all that much, and I feel that it is the support community&#8217;s responsibility to meet the user&#8217;s needs rather than expect the user to improve their tech savvy.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Mark Shead</title><link>http://www.productivity501.com/more-efficient-emails/2792/comment-page-1/#comment-116943</link> <dc:creator>Mark Shead</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 22:48:33 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.productivity501.com/?p=2792#comment-116943</guid> <description>@Marie - I understand what you are saying and many times that is the case.  However, in this particular instance, Sue isn&#039;t even reading the emails from the help desk.  And the questions being asked aren&#039;t difficult even for a non-technical person.
She was asked what folders were missing several times and completely ignored the question.  Then she was asked what the folders were used for or what was in them and she still didn&#039;t give any type of response to the question.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Marie &#8211; I understand what you are saying and many times that is the case.  However, in this particular instance, Sue isn&#8217;t even reading the emails from the help <a
href="http://www.productivity501.com/5-questions-to-help-organize-your-desk/7045/" class="kblinker" title="More about desk &raquo;">desk</a>.  And the questions being asked aren&#8217;t difficult even for a non-technical person.</p><p>She was asked what folders were missing several times and completely ignored the question.  Then she was asked what the folders were used for or what was in them and she still didn&#8217;t give any type of response to the question.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Marie</title><link>http://www.productivity501.com/more-efficient-emails/2792/comment-page-1/#comment-116941</link> <dc:creator>Marie</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 22:34:34 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.productivity501.com/?p=2792#comment-116941</guid> <description>Years ago I was a help desk consultant.  I worked with Fortune 100 companies in establishing call centers all over North America.  What you are describing is indeed a common problem with help desks or any tech support department.  However, the issue you detail here is not that the woman can&#039;t write an effective email.   The issue is that she is not technology oriented.  She is, in fact, describing the problem as she understands it quite well.  She needs some computer literacy classes perhaps, not English classes.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Years ago I was a help <a
href="http://www.productivity501.com/5-questions-to-help-organize-your-desk/7045/" class="kblinker" title="More about desk &raquo;">desk</a> consultant.  I worked with Fortune 100 companies in establishing call centers all over North America.  What you are describing is indeed a common problem with help desks or any tech support department.  However, the issue you detail here is not that the woman can&#8217;t write an effective email.   The issue is that she is not technology oriented.  She is, in fact, describing the problem as she understands it quite well.  She needs some computer literacy classes perhaps, not English classes.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Mark Shead</title><link>http://www.productivity501.com/more-efficient-emails/2792/comment-page-1/#comment-112473</link> <dc:creator>Mark Shead</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 05 Apr 2009 17:22:39 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.productivity501.com/?p=2792#comment-112473</guid> <description>@Dorothy - I would argue that someone incapable of communicating in writing, probably doesn&#039;t have the skills required for the vast majority of jobs today.
The help desk person did eventually walk over to Sue&#039;s desk, but this meant that Sue&#039;s problem cost the company significantly more to fix than it would have coming from someone who could express themselves in writing.
While that is fine if it happens once in a while, the problem here was Sue--not the help desk person. I realize that often it is the help desk side of things that communicates poorly.  Someone at the help desk who can&#039;t communicate clearly with normal users via email shouldn&#039;t be in that job either.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Dorothy &#8211; I would argue that someone incapable of communicating in writing, probably doesn&#8217;t have the skills required for the vast majority of jobs today.</p><p>The help <a
href="http://www.productivity501.com/5-questions-to-help-organize-your-desk/7045/" class="kblinker" title="More about desk &raquo;">desk</a> person did eventually walk over to Sue&#8217;s desk, but this meant that Sue&#8217;s problem cost the company significantly more to fix than it would have coming from someone who could express themselves in writing.</p><p>While that is fine if it happens once in a while, the problem here was Sue&#8211;not the help desk person. I realize that often it is the help desk side of things that communicates poorly.  Someone at the help desk who can&#8217;t communicate clearly with normal users via email shouldn&#8217;t be in that job either.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Dorothy</title><link>http://www.productivity501.com/more-efficient-emails/2792/comment-page-1/#comment-112472</link> <dc:creator>Dorothy</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 05 Apr 2009 17:12:09 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.productivity501.com/?p=2792#comment-112472</guid> <description>Right on, Andrew.
Yes, some people don&#039;t use e-mail effectively. When that happens, it&#039;s best not to say, &#039;Well, that person doesn&#039;t use e-mail effectively, so too bad for her!&#039; Rather, best to find another way to communicate.
The help desk person should have picked up the phone or -- if possible -- wandered over to Sue&#039;s desk.
Yes, I realize this is a post on e-mail, but it&#039;s important to understand that e-mail is not the right medium for all situations or all people.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right on, Andrew.</p><p>Yes, some people don&#8217;t use e-mail effectively. When that happens, it&#8217;s best not to say, &#8216;Well, that person doesn&#8217;t use e-mail effectively, so too bad for her!&#8217; Rather, best to find another way to communicate.</p><p>The help <a
href="http://www.productivity501.com/5-questions-to-help-organize-your-desk/7045/" class="kblinker" title="More about desk &raquo;">desk</a> person should have picked up the phone or &#8212; if possible &#8212; wandered over to Sue&#8217;s desk.</p><p>Yes, I realize this is a post on e-mail, but it&#8217;s important to understand that e-mail is not the right medium for all situations or all people.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: John Lampard</title><link>http://www.productivity501.com/more-efficient-emails/2792/comment-page-1/#comment-112355</link> <dc:creator>John Lampard</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 04 Apr 2009 13:48:05 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.productivity501.com/?p=2792#comment-112355</guid> <description>I&#039;ve had the occasional stint or two on support desks and the thing I found with requests for help was the perception you knew precisely and exactly what the caller was talking about despite being provided with the vaguest of info.
That &quot;I can&#039;t get to the folders&quot; line was very indicative of some of the calls I took, and when I asked for more details the response was something like &quot;oh, you know, the folders where MY work is&quot;!
On the flip side though I have seen instances of IT depts say changing directory (and folder) structures and not saying a word about it, needless to say resulting in mass confusion!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve had the occasional stint or two on support <a
href="http://www.productivity501.com/5-questions-to-help-organize-your-desk/7045/" class="kblinker" title="More about desk &raquo;">desks</a> and the thing I found with requests for help was the perception you knew precisely and exactly what the caller was talking about despite being provided with the vaguest of info.</p><p>That &#8220;I can&#8217;t get to the folders&#8221; line was very indicative of some of the calls I took, and when I asked for more details the response was something like &#8220;oh, you know, the folders where MY work is&#8221;!</p><p>On the flip side though I have seen instances of IT depts say changing directory (and folder) structures and not saying a word about it, needless to say resulting in mass confusion!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Anca</title><link>http://www.productivity501.com/more-efficient-emails/2792/comment-page-1/#comment-111318</link> <dc:creator>Anca</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 27 Mar 2009 12:01:27 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.productivity501.com/?p=2792#comment-111318</guid> <description>Communication, communication, communication! Whether it is written or spoken you must respect a few important rules, otherwise you loose your time and more important, you loose somebody else&#039;s time...and..let&#039;s not forget that &quot;time means money&quot;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Communication, communication, communication! Whether it is written or spoken you must respect a few important rules, otherwise you loose your time and more important, you loose somebody else&#8217;s time&#8230;and..let&#8217;s not forget that &#8220;time means money&#8221;</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
