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> <channel><title>Comments on: Dvorak Keyboard</title> <atom:link href="http://www.productivity501.com/dvorak-keyboard/362/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.productivity501.com/dvorak-keyboard/362/</link> <description>Pieces of the productivity puzzle.</description> <lastBuildDate>Mon, 06 Feb 2012 18:44:51 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1</generator> <item><title>By: Mark Shead</title><link>http://www.productivity501.com/dvorak-keyboard/362/comment-page-1/#comment-172462</link> <dc:creator>Mark Shead</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 01 Nov 2010 14:51:10 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.productivity501.com/dvorak-keyboard/362/#comment-172462</guid> <description>It is surprisingly challenging to use a keyboard that doesn&#039;t have the right keys printed on it.  Even if you touch type, most of us look up the occasional symbol or little used key.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is surprisingly challenging to use a keyboard that doesn&#8217;t have the right keys printed on it.  Even if you touch type, most of us look up the occasional symbol or little used key.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: tiredshoulder</title><link>http://www.productivity501.com/dvorak-keyboard/362/comment-page-1/#comment-172427</link> <dc:creator>tiredshoulder</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 01 Nov 2010 10:27:48 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.productivity501.com/dvorak-keyboard/362/#comment-172427</guid> <description>I don&#039;t think Barbara Blackburn being then the world&#039;s fastest typist being at fault!  It looks as if they just had the typewriter set up for a different input layout.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think Barbara Blackburn being then the world&#8217;s fastest typist being at fault!  It looks as if they just had the typewriter set up for a different input layout.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: tiredshoulder</title><link>http://www.productivity501.com/dvorak-keyboard/362/comment-page-1/#comment-172426</link> <dc:creator>tiredshoulder</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 01 Nov 2010 10:25:01 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.productivity501.com/dvorak-keyboard/362/#comment-172426</guid> <description>Operating systems like linux and OSX make it trivial to swap keyboard layouts with a key combo.  It&#039;s possible in windows but a little more cumbersome.
Look up keyboard layouts on wikipedia, far from every one uses Qwerty.
If computers are to become truly accessible it should be easy to select and switch input preferences and language settings.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Operating systems like linux and OSX make it trivial to swap keyboard layouts with a key combo.  It&#8217;s possible in windows but a little more cumbersome.</p><p>Look up keyboard layouts on wikipedia, far from every one uses Qwerty.</p><p>If computers are to become truly accessible it should be easy to select and switch input preferences and language settings.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: tiredshoulder</title><link>http://www.productivity501.com/dvorak-keyboard/362/comment-page-1/#comment-172419</link> <dc:creator>tiredshoulder</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 01 Nov 2010 10:05:31 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.productivity501.com/dvorak-keyboard/362/#comment-172419</guid> <description>Three years later and it looks like touch devices have become mainstream.  And as such it&#039;s very simple to change the displayed keyboard layout with software.
At the same time, qwerty might get a boost with predictive text algorithms that make typing on the conventional layout easier.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Three years later and it looks like touch devices have become mainstream.  And as such it&#8217;s very simple to change the displayed keyboard layout with software.</p><p>At the same time, qwerty might get a boost with predictive text algorithms that make typing on the conventional layout easier.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: greg</title><link>http://www.productivity501.com/dvorak-keyboard/362/comment-page-1/#comment-132088</link> <dc:creator>greg</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 10:23:47 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.productivity501.com/dvorak-keyboard/362/#comment-132088</guid> <description>I have used the Colemak keyboard since two years now. Unlike the Dvorak, it has a number of keys in common with the QWERTY keyboard, so it is much easier to learn. I am very happy with it, is just feels &quot;right&quot; when I use it.
I can&#039;t really compare the typing speed before and after. Before, I had slightlly different keyboard layouts on different PCs (US, UK, German, French), which greatly annoyed me and slowed me down. Now I use Colemak on all PCs, and this has restored my sanity.
Colemak is great for writing accented characters in multiple languages (ñ, ç, ä, ö, ü, ê, à, ß), and all the characters used for programming (#&#124;[]{}%\) are in the same place as on a US keyboard. For my purposes. it is really the ideal keyboard.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have used the Colemak keyboard since two years now. Unlike the Dvorak, it has a number of keys in common with the QWERTY keyboard, so it is much easier to learn. I am very happy with it, is just feels &#8220;right&#8221; when I use it.</p><p>I can&#8217;t really compare the typing speed before and after. Before, I had slightlly different keyboard layouts on different PCs (US, UK, German, French), which greatly annoyed me and slowed me down. Now I use Colemak on all PCs, and this has restored my sanity.</p><p>Colemak is great for writing accented characters in multiple languages (ñ, ç, ä, ö, ü, ê, à, ß), and all the characters used for programming (#|[]{}%\) are in the same place as on a US keyboard. For my purposes. it is really the ideal keyboard.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Chase Solaegui</title><link>http://www.productivity501.com/dvorak-keyboard/362/comment-page-1/#comment-88499</link> <dc:creator>Chase Solaegui</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 18:40:30 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.productivity501.com/dvorak-keyboard/362/#comment-88499</guid> <description>So I just recently switched to dvorak.  With Qwerty I type about 70 words per minute.  At first it was just to challenge myself, but then I realized that I really wish to avoid carpel tunnel.  It took me about an hour to memorize the layout but my typing is still slow.  Well it has only been one day, but I definitely notice that  the words flow much better with dvorak.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So I just recently switched to dvorak.  With Qwerty I type about 70 words per minute.  At first it was just to challenge myself, but then I realized that I really wish to avoid carpel tunnel.  It took me about an hour to <a
href="http://www.productivity501.com/how-to-memorize-verbatim-text/294/" class="kblinker" title="More about memorize &raquo;">memorize</a> the layout but my typing is still slow.  Well it has only been one day, but I definitely notice that  the words flow much better with dvorak.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Curt Carlson</title><link>http://www.productivity501.com/dvorak-keyboard/362/comment-page-1/#comment-28838</link> <dc:creator>Curt Carlson</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 13 Apr 2008 15:03:39 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.productivity501.com/dvorak-keyboard/362/#comment-28838</guid> <description>I&#039;ve used the Dvorak keyboard for about four years and don&#039;t notice a big difference from Qwerty in my typing speed.  The main benefit is no one else finds my computer usable since they don&#039;t know which key is which!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve used the Dvorak keyboard for about four years and don&#8217;t notice a big difference from Qwerty in my typing speed.  The main benefit is no one else finds my computer usable since they don&#8217;t know which key is which!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Michael Sampson on the Dvorak Keyboard at Productivity501</title><link>http://www.productivity501.com/dvorak-keyboard/362/comment-page-1/#comment-23206</link> <dc:creator>Michael Sampson on the Dvorak Keyboard at Productivity501</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 10:39:57 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.productivity501.com/dvorak-keyboard/362/#comment-23206</guid> <description>[...] talked about the Dvorak keyboard before when I learned Michael Sampson was making the switch. Since it has been a few months, I thought it [...]</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] talked about the Dvorak keyboard before when I learned Michael Sampson was making the switch. Since it has been a few months, I thought it [...]</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Christian</title><link>http://www.productivity501.com/dvorak-keyboard/362/comment-page-1/#comment-21926</link> <dc:creator>Christian</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 03:15:49 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.productivity501.com/dvorak-keyboard/362/#comment-21926</guid> <description>I typed at around 50 words per minute or more in QWERTY.  It really was a whim---I was talking to a college buddy who now works at Lockheed Martin and I mentioned the wrist pain I had.  He jokingly said, &quot;why don&#039;t you learn Dvorak?&quot;  I had never heard of it.
As for why I went with the whim, I cannot say other than enjoying being different---in all honesty the benefits of faster typing and more comfort were ancillary.  I almost abandoned my efforts because I have a word-processing-intensive job and my typing was painfully slow (and doing everything by dictation defeats the point of learning to type in a new style).  It took me over a year for my typing to equal (and then surpass) my QWERTY speed.
Amazingly, since learning to type in Dvorak, I have also learned to type fluently in Hebrew---which took me less than a week.  I am curious if learning Dvorak helped me pick up the new style faster, just one who learns a second language can learn a third.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I typed at around 50 words per minute or more in QWERTY.  It really was a whim&#8212;I was talking to a <a
href="http://www.productivity501.com/harvard-masters-degree/6463/" class="kblinker" title="More about college &raquo;">college</a> buddy who now works at Lockheed Martin and I mentioned the wrist pain I had.  He jokingly said, &#8220;why don&#8217;t you learn Dvorak?&#8221;  I had never heard of it.</p><p>As for why I went with the whim, I cannot say other than enjoying being different&#8212;in all honesty the benefits of faster typing and more comfort were ancillary.  I almost abandoned my efforts because I have a word-processing-intensive job and my typing was painfully slow (and doing everything by dictation defeats the point of learning to type in a new style).  It took me over a year for my typing to equal (and then surpass) my QWERTY speed.</p><p>Amazingly, since learning to type in Dvorak, I have also learned to type fluently in Hebrew&#8212;which took me less than a week.  I am curious if learning Dvorak helped me pick up the new style faster, just one who learns a second language can learn a third.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Mark Shead</title><link>http://www.productivity501.com/dvorak-keyboard/362/comment-page-1/#comment-21922</link> <dc:creator>Mark Shead</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 02:40:49 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.productivity501.com/dvorak-keyboard/362/#comment-21922</guid> <description>@Christian - How fast did you type with QWERTY? It seems like an amazing thing to change on a whim if you are already decently proficient with the old keyboard.
A lot of people seem pleased with it though, but it should like a lot of work to change?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Christian &#8211; How fast did you type with QWERTY? It seems like an amazing thing to change on a whim if you are already decently proficient with the old keyboard.</p><p>A lot of people seem pleased with it though, but it should like a lot of work to change?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Christian</title><link>http://www.productivity501.com/dvorak-keyboard/362/comment-page-1/#comment-21787</link> <dc:creator>Christian</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 17 Feb 2008 05:25:50 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.productivity501.com/dvorak-keyboard/362/#comment-21787</guid> <description>I&#039;m an attorney and I type thousands of pages a month.  I had terrible wrist pain and on a whim I switched to Dvorak.  Learning Dvorak was one of the greatest things I ever did---I haven&#039;t had one incident of wrist pain since converting two years ago.  However, I don&#039;t know if it&#039;s because of the Dvorak layout or if it&#039;s because I actually learned to type correctly when learning Dvorak.  When I was using a Qwerty keyboard, I actually typed with only three fingers and would &quot;cheat.&quot;  When I learned to retype in Dvorak, I learned to type with the right habits.  So maybe that&#039;s why typing is so much more comfortable.
Today, I can switch between the two.  If I type correctly, it has to be in Dvorak.  If I type in my old &quot;cheating&quot; style, it comes out in Qwerty.
By the way, I do think I type faster in Dvorak than I ever did in Qwerty.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m an attorney and I type thousands of pages a month.  I had terrible wrist pain and on a whim I switched to Dvorak.  Learning Dvorak was one of the greatest things I ever did&#8212;I haven&#8217;t had one incident of wrist pain since converting two years ago.  However, I don&#8217;t know if it&#8217;s because of the Dvorak layout or if it&#8217;s because I actually learned to type correctly when learning Dvorak.  When I was using a Qwerty keyboard, I actually typed with only three fingers and would &#8220;cheat.&#8221;  When I learned to retype in Dvorak, I learned to type with the right habits.  So maybe that&#8217;s why typing is so much more comfortable.</p><p>Today, I can switch between the two.  If I type correctly, it has to be in Dvorak.  If I type in my old &#8220;cheating&#8221; style, it comes out in Qwerty.</p><p>By the way, I do think I type faster in Dvorak than I ever did in Qwerty.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Gordon</title><link>http://www.productivity501.com/dvorak-keyboard/362/comment-page-1/#comment-14787</link> <dc:creator>Gordon</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2007 22:42:44 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.productivity501.com/dvorak-keyboard/362/#comment-14787</guid> <description>Brit:
I also saw the Letterman show with the world&#039;s fastest typist. The printed document was unreadable because the typist uses a Dvorak typewriter at home but Letterman&#039;s typewriter had a QUERTY layout. So, for example, &quot;Tonight&#039;s top ten list&quot; would have printed out as &quot;Kslgujkq; ksr kdl pg;k&quot;!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brit:<br
/> I also saw the Letterman show with the world&#8217;s fastest typist. The printed document was unreadable because the typist uses a Dvorak typewriter at home but Letterman&#8217;s typewriter had a QUERTY layout. So, for example, &#8220;Tonight&#8217;s top ten list&#8221; would have printed out as &#8220;Kslgujkq; ksr kdl pg;k&#8221;!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Soren</title><link>http://www.productivity501.com/dvorak-keyboard/362/comment-page-1/#comment-13671</link> <dc:creator>Soren</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 08 Dec 2007 02:49:31 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.productivity501.com/dvorak-keyboard/362/#comment-13671</guid> <description>I&#039;m can&#039;t type naturally in more than one layout like Albert M.
But I&#039;ve found that it&#039;s possible to memorize the letter pairs for QWERTY and a nonstandard keyboard for each key.
And if I know the pairs, I can transpose between layouts as I write.
For example, the pairs for &#039;e&#039; &#039;h&#039; &#039;l&#039; and &#039;o&#039; between nTheia (my board) and QWERTY are &#039;eg&#039; &#039;ha&#039; &#039;lc&#039; and &#039;op&#039;.  Typing &quot;agllp&quot; on a standard board gives me &#039;hello&#039;.
And I do agree with Andrew Flusche, companies that produce gadgets like the iPhone should be pressured to make the keyboards customizable.
Ciao e mahalo,
Søren</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m can&#8217;t type naturally in more than one layout like Albert M.</p><p>But I&#8217;ve found that it&#8217;s possible to <a
href="http://www.productivity501.com/how-to-memorize-verbatim-text/294/" class="kblinker" title="More about memorize &raquo;">memorize</a> the letter pairs for QWERTY and a nonstandard keyboard for each key.</p><p>And if I know the pairs, I can transpose between layouts as I write.</p><p>For example, the pairs for &#8216;e&#8217; &#8216;h&#8217; &#8216;l&#8217; and &#8216;o&#8217; between nTheia (my board) and QWERTY are &#8216;eg&#8217; &#8216;ha&#8217; &#8216;lc&#8217; and &#8216;op&#8217;.  Typing &#8220;agllp&#8221; on a standard board gives me &#8216;hello&#8217;.</p><p>And I do agree with Andrew Flusche, companies that produce gadgets like the iPhone should be pressured to make the keyboards customizable.</p><p>Ciao e mahalo,<br
/> Søren</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Albert M</title><link>http://www.productivity501.com/dvorak-keyboard/362/comment-page-1/#comment-10611</link> <dc:creator>Albert M</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 02:11:56 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.productivity501.com/dvorak-keyboard/362/#comment-10611</guid> <description>@Andrew - You actually switch without knowing.
*answers.- 4 years ago, because I was spending so much time in chat rooms, IRC and Instant messangers, I decided to change to Dvorak anytime i can.  So far it&#039;s been amazing, i type faster and I am able to reduce the wrist strain.  The mind switches automatically. I had two keyboards side by side for a bit when i was doing website testing,(qwerty and Dvorak) and the brain makes the switch instantly.  The only problem is that it refuses to switch BACK. Say for instance the left keyboard is qwerty and the right is Dvorak, your brain has memorised this pattern.  If i switched the keyboards around, i found i was unable to use them for a few seconds until i actually made a visual report of which was which.   Minor, but i don&#039;t change keyboards anymore.  I have switched labtops, (mac and PC) and popped keys on keyboards and even bought stickers , and still constantly used a dvorak. My goal is the split dvorak keyboards.  One annoying note. PC&#039;s do not allow you to log in using changed keyboards so i always have to qwerty my way in if i have it set up in International.
If you write alot, go ahead and switch, it takes about 6months to be entirely comfortable, but only about 2 weeks to get the gist of where the keys are.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Andrew &#8211; You actually switch without knowing.</p><p>*answers.- 4 years ago, because I was spending so much time in chat rooms, IRC and Instant messangers, I decided to change to Dvorak anytime i can.  So far it&#8217;s been amazing, i type faster and I am able to reduce the wrist strain.  The mind switches automatically. I had two keyboards side by side for a bit when i was doing website testing,(qwerty and Dvorak) and the brain makes the switch instantly.  The only problem is that it refuses to switch BACK. Say for instance the left keyboard is qwerty and the right is Dvorak, your brain has memorised this pattern.  If i switched the keyboards around, i found i was unable to use them for a few seconds until i actually made a visual report of which was which.   Minor, but i don&#8217;t change keyboards anymore.  I have switched labtops, (mac and PC) and popped keys on keyboards and even bought stickers , and still constantly used a dvorak. My goal is the split dvorak keyboards.  One annoying note. PC&#8217;s do not allow you to log in using changed keyboards so i always have to qwerty my way in if i have it set up in International.</p><p>If you write alot, go ahead and switch, it takes about 6months to be entirely comfortable, but only about 2 weeks to get the gist of where the keys are.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Chris Edmunds</title><link>http://www.productivity501.com/dvorak-keyboard/362/comment-page-1/#comment-10178</link> <dc:creator>Chris Edmunds</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 04 Nov 2007 06:51:11 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.productivity501.com/dvorak-keyboard/362/#comment-10178</guid> <description>I type 6 to 8 hours a day with some coding rather than programming.
Using a Qwerty keyboard, I had begun to suffer carpel tunnel syndrome, and I didn&#039;t enjoy the pain at all, I changed over to DSK at home and at work nearly 4 years ago, and left the pain behind.
I have looked at Programmers Dvorak but not installed and used it yet, as I do coding rather than programming, I’m not sure how advantageous the move will be, but I went through all that once moving from Qwerty to Dvorak, the additional learning curve is set to be a minor change to the major change of the past.
My Qwerty speeds were around 72 wpm, but I always ran everything through a spell checker as I’m a low level dyslexic, it always came up with errors, and there would be 50 to 60 errors on a full page, after the change over it took between 2 and 3 weeks of cold turkey typing to get back into the swing of touch typing, it took about another 3 to 4 weeks to get back to around 68 wpm, but I noticed that my errors went down to 20 to 25 errors per full page.
I am now typing at 85 wpm and my errors are at 12 to 15 per full page, I run 90% of my typing through a spell checker, and the total errors are about 25% of the errors I used to get with a Qwerty keyboard.
So from my point of view the past 4 years of DSK have been “No pain. Great gain”.
In terms of productivity the Dvorak keyboard makes me at least 20 - 25% more productive, in a purely subjective estimation, this is based on eliminating the pain totally, improved typing speed, and reducing the errors/page by 75%. The greatly reduced finger mileage has changed some things, that would make any typing after 5 hours on a Qwerty keyboard painful, to the point that I can be pain free after 8 or more hours on a DSK</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I type 6 to 8 hours a day with some coding rather than programming.</p><p>Using a Qwerty keyboard, I had begun to suffer carpel tunnel syndrome, and I didn&#8217;t enjoy the pain at all, I changed over to DSK at home and at work nearly 4 years ago, and left the pain behind.</p><p>I have looked at Programmers Dvorak but not installed and used it yet, as I do coding rather than programming, I’m not sure how advantageous the move will be, but I went through all that once moving from Qwerty to Dvorak, the additional learning curve is set to be a minor change to the major change of the past.</p><p>My Qwerty speeds were around 72 wpm, but I always ran everything through a spell checker as I’m a low level dyslexic, it always came up with errors, and there would be 50 to 60 errors on a full page, after the change over it took between 2 and 3 weeks of cold turkey typing to get back into the swing of touch typing, it took about another 3 to 4 weeks to get back to around 68 wpm, but I noticed that my errors went down to 20 to 25 errors per full page.</p><p>I am now typing at 85 wpm and my errors are at 12 to 15 per full page, I run 90% of my typing through a spell checker, and the total errors are about 25% of the errors I used to get with a Qwerty keyboard.</p><p>So from my point of view the past 4 years of DSK have been “No pain. Great gain”.</p><p>In terms of productivity the Dvorak keyboard makes me at least 20 &#8211; 25% more productive, in a purely subjective estimation, this is based on eliminating the pain totally, improved typing speed, and reducing the errors/page by 75%. The greatly reduced finger mileage has changed some things, that would make any typing after 5 hours on a Qwerty keyboard painful, to the point that I can be pain free after 8 or more hours on a DSK</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
